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THE
UNRELEASED INTERVIEW
WITH USAMAH BIN LADEN
21st October 2001
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Tayseer
Allouni: What is your opinion about what is being
said concerning your examples and the "clash
of civilizations" ? Your constant use and repetition
of the word "Crusade" and "Crusader"
shows that you... uphold that saying, the "clash
of civilizations..."
Usamah
bin Laden:
I say that there is no doubt in this. This is a very clear
matter, proven in the Book and the Sunnah, and any true
believer [mu'min] who claims to be faithful shouldn't
belie [yukathib] these truths, no matter what so
and so says about it [qaala biha `amr am lam yaqul
bihaa]. What goes for us [al-mu`tabar `induna]
is whatever is found in the Book of Allah and the Sunnah
of the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam). But,
the Jews and America have come up with a fairytale that
they count to the Muslims, and they've been unfortunately
followed by the local rulers (of the Muslims) and a lot
of people who are close to them, by using "world
peace" as an excuse. That is a fairytale [khuraafah,
meaning, a fictional matter] which has no basis whatsoever!
[TOP]
UBL:
The peace that they push on Muslims is to ready and prepare
them to get slaughtered, and the slaughter still goes
on. So if we try to defend ourselves, they call us "terrorists,"
and the slaughter still goes on. So it is said that the
Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam) said in truth
[sahha]: "The Hour will not come until the Muslims
fight the Jews and kill them. When a Jew hides behind
a rock or a tree, it will say: 'O Muslim, O Servant of
Allah! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!' All
the trees will do this except the box-thorn (al-Gharqad),
because it is the tree of the Jews." [narrated
by al-Bukhaari (3593), Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi, Ibn Maajah]
And whoever claims that there is permanent peace between
us and the Jews, then he has disbelieved [kafarah]
from what has been sent down on Muhammad (sallallahu
`alayhi wasallam), and the battle is between us and
the enemies of Islam, and that will go on until the Hour,
and the so-called "Peace" or "Peace award"
(Nobel Peace Prize), that is a fairytale that is given
to the biggest blood-shedders [safaaheen]. That
man (Ronald) Reagan, the perpetrator of the Der Yassin
massacre, was awarded the Peace Prize. That traitor Anwar
al-Sadat, the one that sold the land and the (Palestinian)
issue and the blood of the martyrs, was awarded the Peace
Prize.
So
we are in a time, like is said in truth by our Prophet
in this hadeeth saheeh: "There will
come upon the people years of deceit in which the liar
will be believed, the truthful disbelieved, the treacherous
will be trusted and the trustworthy held to be treacherous,
and the despicable (ar-Ruwaybidah) will speak out.
It was said: 'Who are the despicable ones (ar-Ruwaybidah)?'
He said: 'The lowly, ignoble man who speaks out about
the public affairs.'" [narrated by Ahmad (7899),
Ibn Maajah (4036) and others; this chain of narration
is weak, however it has another chain of narration reported
by Ahmad (8440) and it has a witnessing narration reported
by Ahmad also (3/220), so the hadeeth is supported to
the level of hasan]
And
unfortunately, that is ruling on the Islamic world today,
with its big leaders, and its famous rulers, so it is
a trick, they trick people and lie to them, but, with
the permission of Allah, the liberation and release of
Allah is close [faraju allahi qareeb], and the
promised victory is close - Allah willing.
[TOP]
TA:
So we can deduce from the words of Shaykh Usamah bin
Laden that he refers to the ordeal that Afghanistan
is going through right now, and the war that America
is waging with its allies, that it falls in the circle
of a battle between the Crusaders, or whom you call
Crusaders, and Islam. Alright, so how do you see an
exit from this ordeal?
UBL:
We are in a strong and brutal battle, like I have mentioned
today, between us and the Jews, with Israel being the
spearhead, and whomever backs it from Zionists and Crusaders.
So we have not hesitated [lam natawarra`] in the
killing of the Jews who conquered the sanctuary of our
Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam). And the
ones who kill our children and women and brothers night
and day, and whomever stands in their trench, he only
has himself to blame [falaa yalumnna illa nafsihi].
So
if you meant how is the exit from the ordeal, then this
is in the hands of the others. Like we have been violated
[i`tidaa'], so our first duty is to remove this
violation. So whoever violated us, let him remove the
violation. The Jews, it appears to us and appears from
the writing of the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam)
that we will have to fight them under that name and on
this land, in this blessed land which has the sanctuary
of our Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam) [nasra].
And
the United States has engaged its people and it engaged
itself [aqhamat nafsaha] over and over for more
than 53 years, and it was the one which recognized Israel,
and it was the one which supported it, and it was the
one that dispatched a general air bridge [jisran jawiyan
`aam] in 1393H (1973AD) during the days of Nixon,
from America to Tel Aviv, with weapons and aid and men,
which has effected the events of the battle, so how could
we not fight it (America)? It is a duty on every Muslim
to fight it. So if it wants to survive, we have said some
simple words, but America has terrorized and it has erased
its values [amhat qiyamaha].
They
have made laughable claims. They said that there is ciphering
(i.e. hidden messages) in Usamah's letters intended
for terrorists. It is like we are living in the times
of pigeon carriers, without the existence of telephones,
without travelers, without Internet, without regular mail,
without faxes, without e-mail. So these are laughable
matters. They belittle people's intellects [yastakhiffun
bi `uqul alnaas], and these are just words.
We
swore that America will never dream of safety, until safety
becomes a reality for us living in Palestine [amrika
lan tahlama bil-amn, hataa na`ishuhu waaqi`an fee filistin].
That has exposed the American government, and that it
lives as an agent of Israel, and it puts Israel's needs
on top of the needs of its own people. So the case is
easy, America won't be able to leave this ordeal unless
it leaves the Arabian peninsula, and it stops its involvement
in Palestine, and in all the Islamic world. If we gave
this equation (problem) to any child in any American
school, he will easily solve it within second. But, according
to Bush's actions, the equation won't be solved unless
the swords fall on their heads, with the permission of
Allah.
[TOP]
TA:
Alright, Shaykh Usamah, do you have any message you want
to address to the viewers?
UBL:
I say: Concerning this ordeal and this battle between
Islam and Crusaders, I want to reiterate that we will
continue - with the permission of Allah - this jihaad
and the incitement of the nation [ummah] for it,
until we get it while blessing us [hataa nalqahu wa
huwa raadin `anna], and the war, like we have been
promised, that is going on between us and the Jews.
So
any nation that joins the Jewish trenches has only itself
to blame, and as Shaykh Sulayman Abu-Gaith has declared
in some his previous statements, concerning America and
Britain, so that should not be etched [fahaatha laysa
lil hafr, meaning, those sayings shouldn't be taken literally],
but indeed he gave some of other nations a chance to review
its calculations.
What
is Japan's concern? What is making Japan join this hard,
strong and ferocious war? It is a blatant violation of
our children in Palestine, and Japan didn't predict it
will be at war with us, so it should review where it stands.
What is the concern of Australia in the farthest south
with the case of those weak Afghans? And those weak in
Palestine? What is Germany's concern with this war?
Besides
disbelief and crusade, it is a war which is repeating
(bringing back) the Crusades, similarly to the
previous wars. Richard LionHeart, and Barbarossa from
Germany, and Louis from France... similarly is the case
today, when they all immediately went forward the day
Bush lifted the cross. The Crusader nations went forward.
What is the concern of the Arab nations in this Crusaders'
War? They entered it openly, without disguise, in broad
daylight [safaaran, jahaaran, nahaaran]. They have
accepted to be ruled by the cross.
Everyone
that supports Bush with one word, even without offering
facilitations and aid [tasheelaat], and whatever is so-called
facilitations, is only a great treachery. They change
its names by not calling it military aid. They join them
in killing our sons, and they tell us that it is not facilitation
and help?? How can we believe that this system (i.e.
the Arab governments) is collecting aid to help the
weak Afghans, while being the main reason in openly giving
the Haramain to the Americans and their allies? How do
we believe them while they are one of main reasons for
the death of more than 1 million children?
I say to those people who walk behind those rulers, don't
they have hearts? Don't they have faith [imaan]?
How can they declare faith [imaan] while they are
helping those fornicating disbelievers [al-kafara al-fajara,
fajar is the root of a 4-letter English word that starts
with F] against the children of Islam? They help them
against our children in Iraq and Palestine.
I
say to the ones who talk about the innocents in America,
they haven't tasted yet the heat of the loss of children,
and they haven't tasted the look on the faces of their
children is Palestine and others. With what right do our
families in Palestine get denied safety? The helicopters
hunt them while they are in their homes, while they are
amongst their women and children, they remove the bodies
and wounded everyday. So those fools [sufahaaa']
cry about the deaths of Americans, and they don't cry
about the deaths of our sons? Don't they fear of receiving
a similar punishment? And our Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi
wasallam) said in truth [sahha]: "He who does
not join the warlike expedition (jihaad), or equip,
or looks well after a warrior's family when he is away,
will be smitten by Allah with a sudden calamity."
[narrated by Abu Dawood (2/2497)]
So
let them fear Allah, and repent, and let them remove the
siege from those innocent children. So the Westerners
are free, Europe wants to enter the war, that is their
prerogative, but our duty is to fight whomever is in the
trench of the Jews. America and the American people are
free, they have entered the trench, and they will get
what is coming to them.
And
concerning us, we are in worship and in jihaad, it is
said in truth about our Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi
wasallam): "Verily a man's standing firm in the
ranks for one hour (in jihaad) in the Way of Allah,
the Mighty and Majestic, is more virtuous than 60 years
of worship." [Collected by al-Bayhaqee; Al-Albaanee
called it saheeh in Saheeh Jaami` As-Sagheer (#5151)]
So what matter is better than that? Under the pride of
Allah (subhannahu wa ta`aala), we ask the Almighty
to accept from us and from you, and concerning the Muslims,
I tell them to trust in the victory of Allah (subhannahu
wa ta`aala), and to answer the call of Allah (subhannahu
wa ta`aala), and the order of His Prophet (sallallahu
`alayhi wasallam), with jihaad against world
disbelief [kufr al-`aalamin]. And I swear by Allah,
happy are the ones who are martyred today, happy are the
ones who are honored to stand under the banner of Muhammad
(sallallahu `alayhi wasallam), under the banner
of Islam, to fight the world Crusade. So let every person
amongst them come forward to fight those Jews and Americans,
and their killing is from the most important duties and
most pressing things, and let them remember the teaching
of the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam), when
he said to the child Ibn Abbaas (radiyallahu `anahum):
"Young man, I shall teach you some of words (of advice):
Be mindful of Allah, and Allah will protect you. Be mindful
of Allah, and you will find Him in front of you. If you
ask, ask of Allah; If you seek help, seek help of Allah.
Know that if the world were to gather together to benefit
you with anything, it would benefit you only with something
that Allah had already prescribed for you, and that if
they gather together to harm you with anything, they would
harm you only with something Allaah had already prescribed
for you. The pens have been lifted and the pages have
dried." [narrated by Ahmad, at-Tirmidhi, and others]
So don't discuss the killing of Americans with anyone,
trust in the divine favor [baraka] of Allah, and
remember your appointment with Allah (subhannahu wa ta`aala)
with the presence of the Best of Prophets (sallallahu
`alayhi wasallam).
And
in conclusion, I would like to dedicate a call to the
brothers in Pakistan, to the position of the Pakistani
government, with a lot of sorrow. Pakistan is one of the
biggest pillars of this unlucky alliance, this Crusaders'
Alliance. So the movement of our brothers in Pakistan
will lead to - with the permission of Allah (subhannahu
wa ta`aala) - a big attack on this unlucky [mash'oom]
Crusader Alliance. So whoever has stood with America,
by aiding them with material or unmaterial things, that
is disbelief [kufr] and the biggest rejection of
the creed and teachings of Islam [millah]. And
it is a duty on the brothers in Pakistan to make a strong
serious move, for the victory of the religion of Allah
(subhannahu wa ta`aala), and the victory of the
Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu `alayhi wasallam).
And the Islam of today is calling them, WAA ISLAMAA,
WAA ISLAMAA, WAA ISLAMAA (Oh Islam! Oh Islam! Oh
Islam!)
Alaa
hal ballaght (Have you delivered the message)??
Allahuma fashhad (May Allah bear witness)!!
Alaaa hal ballaght?? Allahuma fashhad!!
Alaaa hal ballaght?? Allahuma fashhad!!
*Crying* Alaaa hal ballaght?? Allahuma
fashhad!! Wassalaaam `alaykum wa rahmatuallah
(And May the Peace and mercy of Allah be upon all the
Muslims)...
[TOP]
*Interview
Ends*
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